On November 19th TSLA set up nicely for a 13% OTM trade for a 105/100 spread for a 31 calendar day duration (December 21st expiry) which was a 17.6% return. I didn't track the trade to see if there was a benefit in closed it early for a partial profit.
Here is the post TSLA Trade Set up
Today there is another nice example of a short term high probability trade set up in TSLA.
The IV Rank is at 58, highish which is good. The weekly options are priced nicely to provide a decent spread trade return. The expiry is the December 13th and the setup is at a different strike as the 10 trade day has shown a 90% win rate with spreads that are set 8% OTM. While it might seem to be adding to the existing trade, it's not. I could go on about the chart set up at the low price that it might be set to head up and increase the odds in favour of the put spread, but with 90% historical success, I wouldn't bother.
8% OTM is around 115 so the 115/111 for a $4 strike spread for the most bang for the buck at $55 profit (ROR near 16%). As usual, for the purposes of analysis, I consider that I am just hitting the bid and ask prices to get filled, I could easily go for the mid price and grab a few more dollars but this skews the trade slightly against me for profit considerations.
Jeff.
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Monday, December 2, 2013
Friday, November 22, 2013
P (Pandora) weekly spread trade setup
Yesterday the net credit on the 25/20 November 22 put credit spread was 40 cents if I just hit the bid and asks, I could probably get slightly better by going for the mid price which would be 50 cents. With options that are trading in penny spreads the mid price would be 41 cents. I also might have got a bit better a day or two ago.
Yesterday, with options expiry today, the same credit spread last traded for 13 cents which is a 27 cent profit (67.5% of the expected profit). If it wasn't expiring today I might have chosen to close the trade out but in this case I can make 100% of the expected profit just by waiting a day and incur no commission costs. The price would have to move over 17% down to cause the trade to lose enough to only break even.
Today the price is up so the play panned out.
The IV rank is now up to 85 so I will be looking at the next week's options if the price drops enough to bring the option pricing high enough to get another spread trade. I am not comfortable enough to consider going to December options without a substantial move down in the price first.
I try not to speculate on where something like this might go, but it's hard not to... so here goes.... assume that there is at least one trade setup available per week. With a little homework that is not too much of a stretch.
With the weekly option trades that set up like this the returns are quite robust. This trade was an 11.1% return on capital risked over three days. Extrapolating that out to an annualized return as if it were a 7 day trade (this can be done once per week as there is usually something setting up somewhere to turn this out weekly) results in over a 500% annual simple return based on the capital risked. That's 360 into over $2,000 in a year without adding more positions than just one contract.
Playing with the numbers for a moment and assuming that the trade are all successful, which, given the setup and odds is possible (with a 10% lower strike and a 5 trading day duration the odds brush 90% successful) . The starting $360 making a $40 profit per week would double in 9 weeks, Adding this $720 as the new total risk and turning out $80 per week and repeating this every 9 weeks yields $10,800 in just less than a year, or 3100%. Of course this ignores commissions, possible losses and draw downs and a lot of reality.
I wouldn't recommend using all the profits in the next trades on the same underlying stock as that amounts to gambling as the entire capital is at risk on the first day after doubling the position size. A better way to increase the profit is to widen the spread from $5 to $6 to bump the profit amount or set up other simultaneous trades in other options. More smaller trades are better than less larger ones.
Jeff.
Yesterday, with options expiry today, the same credit spread last traded for 13 cents which is a 27 cent profit (67.5% of the expected profit). If it wasn't expiring today I might have chosen to close the trade out but in this case I can make 100% of the expected profit just by waiting a day and incur no commission costs. The price would have to move over 17% down to cause the trade to lose enough to only break even.
Today the price is up so the play panned out.
The IV rank is now up to 85 so I will be looking at the next week's options if the price drops enough to bring the option pricing high enough to get another spread trade. I am not comfortable enough to consider going to December options without a substantial move down in the price first.
I try not to speculate on where something like this might go, but it's hard not to... so here goes.... assume that there is at least one trade setup available per week. With a little homework that is not too much of a stretch.
With the weekly option trades that set up like this the returns are quite robust. This trade was an 11.1% return on capital risked over three days. Extrapolating that out to an annualized return as if it were a 7 day trade (this can be done once per week as there is usually something setting up somewhere to turn this out weekly) results in over a 500% annual simple return based on the capital risked. That's 360 into over $2,000 in a year without adding more positions than just one contract.
Playing with the numbers for a moment and assuming that the trade are all successful, which, given the setup and odds is possible (with a 10% lower strike and a 5 trading day duration the odds brush 90% successful) . The starting $360 making a $40 profit per week would double in 9 weeks, Adding this $720 as the new total risk and turning out $80 per week and repeating this every 9 weeks yields $10,800 in just less than a year, or 3100%. Of course this ignores commissions, possible losses and draw downs and a lot of reality.
I wouldn't recommend using all the profits in the next trades on the same underlying stock as that amounts to gambling as the entire capital is at risk on the first day after doubling the position size. A better way to increase the profit is to widen the spread from $5 to $6 to bump the profit amount or set up other simultaneous trades in other options. More smaller trades are better than less larger ones.
Jeff.
Wednesday, November 20, 2013
P (Pandora) possible trade setup using the S&P500 Simplified Formula
I was looking at other possible trade setups last evening and noticed that P (Pandora Media) was brushing the 60 IV rank which in the neighbourhood of being ripe for a put credit spread, so I thought I would run the numbers to see if it was ripe.
Two primary criteria for even considering a stock include being very liquid (high volume, over 2 million) in both the stock and option volume. Options I like to see 500 open interest or more in the strike ranges where I might choose to place a trade. I also like to see penny spread pricing (difference between the bid and ask) but up to 10 cents is not the end of the world, getting orders filled may take longer if I am picky about the price in those cases.
P fits the bill although the option spread is 5 to 10 cents.
The next thing to do is to run the historical price activity through the wringer.
Well, not as good as I might have wanted as only the really short term trades are in any decent range. Seeing as this stock has weekly options I would look at the near week to see if there was any premium to sell in that 5 day area so with that in mind I looked at the November 22 options. These are actually the monthly options but in the last week, it amounts to the same thing and probably allows for higher open interest.
Quick note about this, if I already had a longer trade on I can add a different strike short term trade which serves to add a sort of diversification to the position and add a bit of profit or, if the current position is being tested (close to losing) it can also serve to offset some potential losses... tough to do that with a straight stock trade.
With the price today at $28.59, 11% lower would be $25.44... so I selected the 25/20 November 22 strikes to come up with a 40 cent credit. While the ROR is only 7.1%, that is for a trade that will only last three days, which is a very good daily return of 2.4%. I think that this would be one to keep an eye just for the weekly option trades, almost scalps in a sense as they are so short of duration.
The other option is to look at the longer term expiry options, out to 30 trading days or so, but the idea would be to only hold them for a shorter term, 10, 15 and 20 trading days, rather than through to expiry. This amounts to early profit taking. Here's a table showing the historical results:
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The table represents trades that were placed a certain percentage lower than the trading price at the time 40 days and 30 days from expiry and shows how low the price was relative to the starting price at 10, 15 and 20 days later. The first 10 days of a 30 day to expiry period seems to be the sweet spot as in over 92% of the trades the price remains higher than the 12% lower strike and almost 67% of the time it remained higher than the 5% lower strike.
The downside is that the premium would have to be priced very high, perhaps from a very high IV ranking in order to see it drop fast enough after the trade was placed to be able to close the trade for a profit. This sort of trade relies on the fast collapse of volatility and is riskier than I would take right now... the IV rank of 60 is not high enough and the actual price action is not low enough.
On the chart, the blue line is the 8 day moving average and I like to use it as a go / no go indicator as the price rides below it for at least a day or two before entering a trade. Typically there is a spike in premium at this time and entering at a lower price allows a greater margin from the average price for the trade. This follows a rough mean reversion idea and I can get into standard deviations, but won't at this point.
All of my tables assume that EVERY trade is entered regardless and while the lower entry idea results in somewhat better historical numbers it eliminates a lot of the possible profitable trades.
Jeff.
Two primary criteria for even considering a stock include being very liquid (high volume, over 2 million) in both the stock and option volume. Options I like to see 500 open interest or more in the strike ranges where I might choose to place a trade. I also like to see penny spread pricing (difference between the bid and ask) but up to 10 cents is not the end of the world, getting orders filled may take longer if I am picky about the price in those cases.
P fits the bill although the option spread is 5 to 10 cents.
The next thing to do is to run the historical price activity through the wringer.
| 40 Days | 35 Days | 30 Days | 25 Days | 20 Days | 15 Days | 10 Days | 5 Days | Combined | |
| Strike | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate |
| 0% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 59.26% | 53.57% | 53.57% | 57.14% | 57.14% | 58.64% |
| -1% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 59.26% | 53.57% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 57.14% | 60.45% |
| -2% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 59.26% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 67.86% | 62.73% |
| -3% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 75.00% | 64.09% |
| -4% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 64.29% | 60.71% | 60.71% | 75.00% | 64.55% |
| -5% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 62.96% | 64.29% | 60.71% | 67.86% | 78.57% | 66.36% |
| -6% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 66.67% | 67.86% | 64.29% | 67.86% | 82.14% | 69.09% |
| -7% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 62.96% | 70.37% | 67.86% | 64.29% | 71.43% | 82.14% | 70.00% |
| -8% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 67.86% | 64.29% | 75.00% | 82.14% | 70.91% |
| -9% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 67.86% | 64.29% | 75.00% | 82.14% | 70.91% |
| -10% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 67.86% | 67.86% | 75.00% | 89.29% | 72.27% |
| -11% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 67.86% | 71.43% | 75.00% | 92.86% | 73.18% |
| -12% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 71.43% | 78.57% | 92.86% | 74.09% |
| -13% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 71.43% | 82.14% | 92.86% | 75.00% |
| -14% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 71.43% | 85.71% | 92.86% | 75.45% |
| -15% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 75.00% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 76.36% |
| -16% | 77.78% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 78.57% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 77.73% |
| -17% | 77.78% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 78.57% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 77.73% |
| -18% | 81.48% | 77.78% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 71.43% | 82.14% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 80.00% |
| -19% | 81.48% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 70.37% | 75.00% | 82.14% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 80.91% |
| -20% | 85.19% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 82.14% | 89.29% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 84.09% |
| -21% | 85.19% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 81.48% | 85.71% | 89.29% | 85.71% | 96.43% | 85.00% |
Well, not as good as I might have wanted as only the really short term trades are in any decent range. Seeing as this stock has weekly options I would look at the near week to see if there was any premium to sell in that 5 day area so with that in mind I looked at the November 22 options. These are actually the monthly options but in the last week, it amounts to the same thing and probably allows for higher open interest.
Quick note about this, if I already had a longer trade on I can add a different strike short term trade which serves to add a sort of diversification to the position and add a bit of profit or, if the current position is being tested (close to losing) it can also serve to offset some potential losses... tough to do that with a straight stock trade.
With the price today at $28.59, 11% lower would be $25.44... so I selected the 25/20 November 22 strikes to come up with a 40 cent credit. While the ROR is only 7.1%, that is for a trade that will only last three days, which is a very good daily return of 2.4%. I think that this would be one to keep an eye just for the weekly option trades, almost scalps in a sense as they are so short of duration.
The other option is to look at the longer term expiry options, out to 30 trading days or so, but the idea would be to only hold them for a shorter term, 10, 15 and 20 trading days, rather than through to expiry. This amounts to early profit taking. Here's a table showing the historical results:
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| 10 of 40 days | 15 of 40 days | 20 of 40 days | 10 of 30 days | 15 of 30 days | 20 of 30 days | |
| Strike | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate |
| 0.00% | 55.56% | 59.26% | 62.96% | 48.15% | 51.85% | 55.56% |
| -1.00% | 59.26% | 59.26% | 66.67% | 51.85% | 55.56% | 55.56% |
| -2.00% | 66.67% | 59.26% | 66.67% | 55.56% | 55.56% | 59.26% |
| -3.00% | 70.37% | 59.26% | 66.67% | 55.56% | 59.26% | 59.26% |
| -4.00% | 70.37% | 62.96% | 66.67% | 59.26% | 66.67% | 62.96% |
| -5.00% | 70.37% | 62.96% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 62.96% |
| -6.00% | 70.37% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 74.07% | 66.67% |
| -7.00% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 74.07% | 70.37% |
| -8.00% | 74.07% | 66.67% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 77.78% | 70.37% |
| -9.00% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 70.37% | 74.07% | 81.48% | 70.37% |
| -10.00% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 74.07% | 81.48% | 81.48% | 81.48% |
| -11.00% | 74.07% | 70.37% | 74.07% | 81.48% | 81.48% | 81.48% |
| -12.00% | 74.07% | 74.07% | 77.78% | 92.59% | 85.19% | 81.48% |
| -13.00% | 77.78% | 74.07% | 77.78% | 92.59% | 88.89% | 81.48% |
| -14.00% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 77.78% | 96.30% | 88.89% | 81.48% |
| -15.00% | 81.48% | 81.48% | 81.48% | 96.30% | 88.89% | 81.48% |
| -16.00% | 85.19% | 85.19% | 81.48% | 96.30% | 88.89% | 85.19% |
| -17.00% | 88.89% | 88.89% | 81.48% | 96.30% | 88.89% | 85.19% |
| -18.00% | 88.89% | 92.59% | 81.48% | 96.30% | 88.89% | 85.19% |
| -19.00% | 88.89% | 92.59% | 81.48% | 96.30% | 92.59% | 85.19% |
| -20.00% | 92.59% | 92.59% | 92.59% | 96.30% | 92.59% | 85.19% |
| -21.00% | 96.30% | 92.59% | 96.30% | 96.30% | 92.59% | 88.89% |
The table represents trades that were placed a certain percentage lower than the trading price at the time 40 days and 30 days from expiry and shows how low the price was relative to the starting price at 10, 15 and 20 days later. The first 10 days of a 30 day to expiry period seems to be the sweet spot as in over 92% of the trades the price remains higher than the 12% lower strike and almost 67% of the time it remained higher than the 5% lower strike.
The downside is that the premium would have to be priced very high, perhaps from a very high IV ranking in order to see it drop fast enough after the trade was placed to be able to close the trade for a profit. This sort of trade relies on the fast collapse of volatility and is riskier than I would take right now... the IV rank of 60 is not high enough and the actual price action is not low enough.
On the chart, the blue line is the 8 day moving average and I like to use it as a go / no go indicator as the price rides below it for at least a day or two before entering a trade. Typically there is a spike in premium at this time and entering at a lower price allows a greater margin from the average price for the trade. This follows a rough mean reversion idea and I can get into standard deviations, but won't at this point.
All of my tables assume that EVERY trade is entered regardless and while the lower entry idea results in somewhat better historical numbers it eliminates a lot of the possible profitable trades.
Jeff.
Tuesday, November 19, 2013
TSLA trade setup using the Simplified S&P500 formula
I know this is jumping the gun, but even though I haven't written all my posts on the S&P500 formula I wanted to apply it to an ideal trade setup today.
Yesterday TSLA had a serious drop in price of just over 10%. Today the price opened under $120 and the put options were priced accordingly.
The Implied Volatility (IV) Rank was over 60, which is a good place for it to be with this sort of spread trading as a high relative IV drives the price of options up, it's one of the factors that directly affect the extrinsic value of a stock.
Here is the historic chart representing the distance from the price for spread strike entry relative to the time until expiry based on trading days, not calendar days and the successful trades... or at least trades when the price ended above the strike price. The pattern suggests that trades longer than 20 days may have crossed the strike then returned above by the end of the period which leads me to use a different strategy here, but the same spread type.
The trade entry was this morning at the open for the December 21 105/100 put spread (selling the 105 and buying the 100) for a credit of 75 cents.
This is basically making $75 on a $5 spread which is a $425 risk or a Return On Risk of 17.6% if the option is held to expiry... 31 calendar days (23 trading days on my charts). The 105 strike is about 13% OTM which has a historic win rate of almost 90% (the 20 day column above) or 92% (the 25 day column).
I might consider that the bottom of the spread is the determining number for the risk as that is maximum loss, and the 100 strike is closer to 17% lower than the price which pegs the historical odds between 95 and 100%
Strategy 1 might be to hold the trade through to expiry for the full return and take the slim chance that it might not work out OR aim for 50% profit taking which, with the action of the stock, could take as little as a week.... probably whichever comes first. At this writing (almost 3pm on the same day) the value of this spread has dropped to 55 cents, which is 26.6% profit already.
Let's see where this one goes.
Jeff.
Yesterday TSLA had a serious drop in price of just over 10%. Today the price opened under $120 and the put options were priced accordingly.
The Implied Volatility (IV) Rank was over 60, which is a good place for it to be with this sort of spread trading as a high relative IV drives the price of options up, it's one of the factors that directly affect the extrinsic value of a stock.
Here is the historic chart representing the distance from the price for spread strike entry relative to the time until expiry based on trading days, not calendar days and the successful trades... or at least trades when the price ended above the strike price. The pattern suggests that trades longer than 20 days may have crossed the strike then returned above by the end of the period which leads me to use a different strategy here, but the same spread type.
| 40 Days | 35 Days | 30 Days | 25 Days | 20 Days | 15 Days | 10 Days | 5 Days | Combined | |
| Strike | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate | Win Rate |
| -5% | 71.05% | 76.92% | 74.36% | 71.79% | 66.67% | 74.36% | 72.50% | 77.50% | 73.16% |
| -6% | 73.68% | 76.92% | 76.92% | 71.79% | 69.23% | 76.92% | 72.50% | 80.00% | 74.76% |
| -7% | 73.68% | 82.05% | 82.05% | 76.92% | 79.49% | 76.92% | 82.50% | 87.50% | 80.19% |
| -8% | 78.95% | 82.05% | 84.62% | 76.92% | 79.49% | 79.49% | 90.00% | 87.50% | 82.43% |
| -9% | 81.58% | 82.05% | 87.18% | 87.18% | 84.62% | 82.05% | 90.00% | 92.50% | 85.94% |
| -10% | 81.58% | 82.05% | 87.18% | 89.74% | 87.18% | 87.18% | 95.00% | 95.00% | 88.18% |
| -11% | 84.21% | 84.62% | 87.18% | 92.31% | 87.18% | 89.74% | 95.00% | 97.50% | 89.78% |
| -12% | 86.84% | 84.62% | 89.74% | 92.31% | 89.74% | 89.74% | 95.00% | 97.50% | 90.73% |
| -13% | 92.11% | 84.62% | 89.74% | 92.31% | 89.74% | 94.87% | 95.00% | 100.00% | 92.33% |
| -14% | 94.74% | 87.18% | 89.74% | 94.87% | 89.74% | 97.44% | 95.00% | 100.00% | 93.61% |
| -15% | 94.74% | 87.18% | 89.74% | 97.44% | 89.74% | 100.00% | 95.00% | 100.00% | 94.25% |
| -16% | 94.74% | 87.18% | 89.74% | 97.44% | 92.31% | 100.00% | 95.00% | 100.00% | 94.57% |
| -17% | 94.74% | 89.74% | 92.31% | 100.00% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 97.50% | 100.00% | 96.17% |
| -18% | 94.74% | 89.74% | 92.31% | 100.00% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 97.50% | 100.00% | 96.17% |
| -19% | 94.74% | 94.87% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 97.50% | 100.00% | 97.12% |
| -20% | 94.74% | 94.87% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 94.87% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 97.44% |
| -21% | 94.74% | 97.44% | 97.44% | 100.00% | 97.44% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 98.40% |
| -22% | 94.74% | 97.44% | 97.44% | 100.00% | 97.44% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% | 98.40% |
The trade entry was this morning at the open for the December 21 105/100 put spread (selling the 105 and buying the 100) for a credit of 75 cents.
This is basically making $75 on a $5 spread which is a $425 risk or a Return On Risk of 17.6% if the option is held to expiry... 31 calendar days (23 trading days on my charts). The 105 strike is about 13% OTM which has a historic win rate of almost 90% (the 20 day column above) or 92% (the 25 day column).
I might consider that the bottom of the spread is the determining number for the risk as that is maximum loss, and the 100 strike is closer to 17% lower than the price which pegs the historical odds between 95 and 100%
Strategy 1 might be to hold the trade through to expiry for the full return and take the slim chance that it might not work out OR aim for 50% profit taking which, with the action of the stock, could take as little as a week.... probably whichever comes first. At this writing (almost 3pm on the same day) the value of this spread has dropped to 55 cents, which is 26.6% profit already.
Let's see where this one goes.
Jeff.
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